The liberal, technocratic order of the past decade has crumbled – and the establishment has reacted hysterically. With their authority challenged, they label their opponents “fascist”, blaming discord on misinformation or adopting conspiracy theories of their own. To celebrate the publication of the German translation of 

 host Alex Hochuli spoke to David Broder, Europe editor of 

, about we should understand the apparent conflict between neoliberal technocracy and populism.

 is a writer and political analyst in São Paulo. He hosts the global politics podcast 

 and is the co-author, with George Hoare, of 

 is a historian of Italy and Europe editor at 